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Clubhouse recap: Bart Smith on the Marc Guss Voiceover Club

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Huge thanks to Marc Guss and his guest tonight on the Marc Guss Voiceover Club, Bart Smith! Bart is an award-winning audio engineering and producer, casting director, and co-founder of the nation’s first all-digital post audio facility. Bart was also described by his friend and fellow engineer Frank Verderosa tonight as “a god among men in the world of audio production.”

Bart said that loved being an engineer and always had great rapport with the voiceover talent in the studio. He said that earlier on in his career, he found himself wishing that he knew more about the script from a creative standpoint. He then he went out on his own and got into all aspects of production: casting, booking, directing, sometimes writing, and putting it all together. It’s clear that he enjoys the creative process.

Several brave audience members read commercial scripts for Bart, and just listening to his direction was a great educational experience. Here are some of the tips that he shared:

  • The first sentence of a script is so important, as it needs to convey the idea of here’s what I’m talking about and here’s why you should listen.
  • Another note about the first line of a script is that sometimes it helps to act like you are answering a question about the product. Imagine someone says, “What’s that?” before you read that first line. It will come out so much more natural.
  • Even when time is tight, do as much as you can to slow down, have pauses, and make it dynamic. That’s what makes it sound conversational.
  • Even in a 30-sec commercial, there’s a beginning, middle, and end.
  • Use some physicality in your reads, like raising your eyebrows, physically smile, stop and wink at something — those things come across in your read.

Thanks so much to Marc and Bart for the amazing conversation and for the brave audience performances that helped everyone listening learn so much! Check out the Marc Guss Voiceover Club every Wednesday night on Clubhouse at 8:30 pm ET or catch the replay later.

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Clubhouse recap: Dave Fennoy on the Marc Guss Voiceover Club

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Huge thanks to Marc Guss and his guest tonight on the Marc Guss Voiceover Club, the legendary voice talent and coach Dave Fennoy! Dave’s recently been teaching his way across Europe at different VO events, and tonight he spent some time on Clubhouse before he and Marc switched over to his weekly Ask Dave Fennoy Anything on Facebook. But even with just a few audience questions, Dave gave a lot of great advice and insights.

He talked about the ability to cold read copy as perhaps being somewhat overrated when it comes to voice over, and described it as coming across as read-y, non-focused, and that it’s like “singing a song that is not your real song.” This, he says, is not going to get you booked.

Dave said that he’s a believer in preparation: read the script in your head 3 times, mumble it 3 times and by the time you’re ready to do a performance, you’ll be at the point where “the words are only there to remind you of what you’re saying.” And make sure that the first few times you read it that you’re doing it slowly and accurately so your brain doesn’t get stuck repeating a mistake.

When asked about warm-ups, Dave says that he relies on his morning coffee, tongue twisters, fake yawns (they realign your pipes), and breathing exercises through a straw. When he’s working on a game with a lot of shouting, he takes as many breaks as he needs to, for example, instead of every hour, take breaks every 15-20 mins.

What does Dave recommend to make efforts seem realistic? He says to think about the breathing, that there are all these sounds that our character might make that aren’t words. Imagine yourself getting hit, jumping, running, etc, and although it all comes from your mouth, your body informs the voice, so get physical. Think about air coming in when you get hit, or if your character is hitting someone else, think of air going out. Bring the acting, be familiar with what’s going on in the script, and read the stage directions.

“The voice is the exhaust of the acting engine.” This is a quote from a colleague that Dave shared tonight, and he says he likes it because it’s a good way to explain what voice acting really is about. “We think it’s all about the words; it’s not,” Dave says. “The words are the last thing — the words are giving detail of what we’re thinking and feeling, what our action is. But it’s about what we’re reacting to, what we’re thinking, what we’re feeling, what we’re doing, and what’s the relationship with the person we’re talking to.”

Thanks so much to Marc and Dave for the amazing conversation and for the audience questions that furthered the discussion! You can find out more about Dave on his website. Check out the Marc Guss Voiceover Club every Wednesday night on Clubhouse at 8:30 pm ET or catch the replay later.

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Clubhouse Recap: the “Working” Voice Actor Talks Business Entities

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Today in The “Working” Voice Actor room, it was time to talk about business entities. What are the pros and cons of being a sole proprietor? What’s the best and worst about registering as an LLC? And how about an S Corp, is that the best move?

George starts off the conversation highly recommending the book Voice Over LEGAL by Robert J. Sciglimpaglia Jr., which goes over these categories in detail. And I should make the disclaimer that none of what was discussed today (and available on the replay) should be considered legal advice.

Talk to a lawyer and/or an accountant to figure out what’s best for YOUR situation. Fees, laws, details vary from state to state, so it’s best to get personalized advice. For example, forming an LLC in California is going to set you back around $800 each year! Other states mentioned, like Washington ($60) and New Jersey ($75), make owning an LLC much more affordable.

And in my personal experience, I want to give a shout out to my local branch of the Small Business Administration, who were so helpful in getting me registered and set up. In addition to free personalized help, my branch also offers free webinars on all kinds of topics that are important to small business owners like ourselves. So check out sba.gov and connect with your local branch — see what they have to offer.

In addition to these different business entities, the discussion also covered notes that people add to contracts and invoices to protect themselves, and some people shared stories about clients that won’t pay. Today’s talk is a lot to summarize, so I’m going to suggest the replay function on Clubhouse if you want to learn more.

And, our hosts asked for suggestions for The “Working” Voice Actor’s official Clubhouse name….preferably something with the word waffle in it…. Get in touch with George, Roshelle, or Megan with your ideas!

Thank you to George, Roshelle, and Megan for organizing this space, and thanks to everyone who contributed to the discussion! I’m looking forward to the next one, and I hope to see you there: Fridays on Clubhouse at 9am PST/noon EST.

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Clubhouse Recap: Everett Oliver on the Marc Guss Voiceover Club

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Huge thanks to Marc Guss and his guest tonight on the Marc Guss Voiceover Club, Everett Oliver! Everett started his journey in voiceover about 28 years ago, moving from production on animation hits like The Simpsons and King of the Hill, to casting, to booth directing, and now to teaching classes as well as directing and coaching talent.

Everett led an animation intensive tonight, taking audience questions and giving feedback on character performances. Not to put anyone who read on the spot, here are some notes that he gave to different voice actors throughout the night:

  • He says that he often tells VO talent that after your first take, go right into your second take. Step away from it for about 10 minutes, then do third take. Then listen to it all and make your choices.
  • It should not take you more than 30 mins to do an audition. If you go past 30 mins you are overthinking it. You should be in and out.
  • To one actor, Everett said that he wasn’t hearing their voice and that they needed to let their guard down and know that this is a safe space. Everett wanted to hear the actor’s personality come through.
  • In other instances, Everett asked the actors who they were talking to, and helped them to visualize who their character was and who was listening to them. Incorporating physicality was important, as was being confident.
  • At one point, Everett felt that an actor was rushing through a script, he said to “take a minute to ground yourself because I’m not believing what I’m hearing.” He asked them to take a drink, add some physicality, and directed them to an amazing level of performance. It was so interesting to hear Everett push and direct the actor to do different things.

Thanks so much to Marc and Everett for the amazing conversation and direction, and for the brave audience performances that helped everyone listening learn so much! You can find out more about Everett’s services on his website. Check out the Marc Guss Voiceover Club every Wednesday night on Clubhouse at 8:30 pm ET or catch the replay later.

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Clubhouse Recap: Representation Roundtable on the Marc Guss Voiceover Club

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Huge thanks to Marc Guss and his three guests and ACM Talent colleagues tonight on the Marc Guss Voiceover Club: Jeffrey Umberger, Andrew Atkin, and Melanie Thomas. May the Fourth be with us in the club tonight!

In what Jeffrey called “a sampling of our morning meetings,” the audience heard the ACM crew discuss their business philosophy, give advice to talent, and talk about what voiceover representation looks like in 2022.

One major note to talent was to be professional when approaching an agency in hopes of getting signed. Don’t be needy, and don’t check in too often. Don’t call every single day. Melanie said to give some time for them to digest an audition before following up, be reasonable.

What’s the fine line between being persistent and being a pest? Andrew suggested having a reason to reach out to agents, such as giving them an update about a new demo, for example. He recommended checking in every 2-3 months, or 3-4 months, even every 6 months to give an update. As he said, time is a blur, and it may feel like just yesterday that they last heard from you.

You could also check in with a question, such as asking for advice on classes to take or which coaches to work with. They may have some suggestions for you.

And what should you do if an agency says that they already have someone on their roster with your sound? Just keep checking in. Take note of the suggestions on the agency’s website, for example if it says to check back in 3 months, and follow those directions. Jeffrey explained that it’s a year-round thing for agencies to update their rosters, so keep checking back. You won’t be a pest as long as you adhere to the guidelines, and if there are none, use 3-6 months as timeframe for followup.

And when asked about ACM having competitiveness or rivalry within the company, they talked about how that doesn’t happen. In fact, when founding ACM, Marc said that part of the philosophy was to get rid of that competitive environment and some of the other negatives that they had experienced at other agencies. Jeff mentioned that they are all very much on the same page when it comes to vetting talent and discussing what’s best for everyone.

Marc shared something that he says he tells talent all the time, “Don’t get caught up in the audition process, don’t get caught up in the representation process — get caught up in the you process. Get caught up in making sure that you’re in charge of your destiny.”

And Jeffrey advised the audience to, “continue to work hard at being YOU.”

Thanks so much to Marc, Jeffrey, Andrew, and Melanie for the amazing conversation, and for the insightful audience questions that furthered the discussion! Check out the Marc Guss Voiceover Club every Wednesday night on Clubhouse at 8:30 pm ET or catch the replay later.

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Clubhouse Recap: Christi Bowen on the Marc Guss Voiceover Club

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Huge thanks to Marc Guss and his guest tonight on the Marc Guss Voiceover Club, Christi Bowen! Christi is a voice actor and coach, and the founder of Tennessee Voiceover Studios. Tonight she talked all things eLearning with the Clubhouse audience.

After a start in producing commercials when she worked in college radio, Christi moved into video production before deciding to try voiceover. She says that her background in video production helps her visualize a script — when she reads it she imagines how she would shoot it. Not having any background in video production myself, I found this to be a really insightful way to analyze a script!

Christi said that she didn’t think about eLearning work when she first started in VO, but after developing a relationship with a client and working on an eLearning project, she pursued it, studied up, and did her research. Her business then grew through referrals from clients, and she said that eLearning is relationship dependent and that content creators tend to take you with them if they move to a different company.

So who are the buyers in eLearning? Christi provided this list of job titles to watch for when marketing or making connections:

  • instructional designer (the most relevant)
  • content creator
  • instructional developer
  • eLearning developer
  • talent development
  • learning designer
  • learning and development specialist, or L&D specialist
  • human resources manager
  • story designer (sometimes)

Marc and Christi agreed that LinkedIn is a fantastic place to be for eLearning. Twitter is also a great place to connect, said Christi, and that instructional designers like to share content and compare notes there. They discuss things like how do people learn, teaching different age groups, how long something should be, etc. Christi said they are very interesting to observe because they have one foot in the business world and one foot in the creative world to create the modules. She used the examples of designers understanding which photos are best to use, color theory, and using space in order to create the most effective learning environment.

Some trends and topics that were brought up tonight:

Project length: the length of projects is getting smaller, said Christi. It’s moving away from the standard of an hour-long seat time (a person sitting for an hour for a module) and they are starting to break things down into smaller chunks. Not always, but it’s an overall trend.

AI voices: Christi said that she has lost work to AI voices, but her hope is that companies who have switched to synthetic voices will come back to human voices because their users won’t find it effective. If people aren’t learning and aren’t satisfied with the quality, there’s hope that that trend will reverse back to hiring VO artists.

Social Media: Christi discussed the importance of being engaging on social media while remaining professional, and to to supply content that others might feel useful. Even though a lot of eLearning is business-to-business and not public-facing, the companies hiring you “want to know that they’re working with a professional.” Marc said that Christi’s advice “follows all the rules of social media: engagement, being interesting, providing value, and thinking about your audience.”

Keep in touch with Tennessee Voiceover Studio’s newsletter for information about two upcoming services: eLearning demo production and eLearning classes.

Thanks so much to Marc and Christi for the amazing conversation, and for the insightful audience questions that furthered the discussion! Check out the Marc Guss Voiceover Club every Wednesday night on Clubhouse at 8:30 pm ET or catch the replay later.

Clubhouse Recap: Marc Guss Shares Insights on His Book on the Marc Guss Voiceover Club

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Tonight on the Marc Guss Voiceover Club, Marc took audience questions about his new book, “Instincts of a Talent Agent: Entrepreneurial Takeaways from an Industry Insider.” This book club-style Q&A allowed the audience to share what resonated with them and to ask Marc questions about his stories and advice to those who have an entrepreneurial spirit.

Marc said that he wanted the book to be more than a memoir — he wanted it to be different — and he aimed to also include career events, stories, successes, and failures so readers could get the entrepreneurial takeaways from his experiences. To me, and others who spoke on stage tonight, Marc achieved that goal by providing those colorful and deeply interesting examples from his career — the good and the bad — as a way to illustrate the takeaways that lead each chapter. I also love the optimism and support that Marc brings from his own outlook and applies it to us, his readers, and our careers.

It can be difficult to admit when we’ve made mistakes, to ourselves and especially to others, and Marc’s candid sharing of his missteps shows us how we can learn from those mistakes and remember those lessons to guide us in the future. I especially liked his idea of building a “Resiliency IRA” fund to help when we’ve had a challenging experience by remembering the lessons learned so that we can do better next time.

And on the topic of challenging experiences, Marc touched on the importance of not taking things personally in this business, like if you don’t book a job, for example. He says to focus on your successes and keep at it. “I’m so exited for my clients on a daily basis,” he says, and that he loves to see people going for it every day.

Don’t get caught up in that kind of rejection and just stick with it, he says. He shared memories about joking around in the office with Will Arnett (how fun does that sound??) and how for several years Will would go out for pilot season without finding much success — until Arrested Development, of course.

Marc also said that he’s seen VO talent that don’t book for over a year, and then eventually go on to become household names. “You just have to stay with it,” he says. And Donovan Corneetz, the voice of the Today show and VO coach, joined the speaker area to share that it took him about 10 years to get to where he is as the voice of the Today show. From never doing promo work and coming in second in the SOVAS CBS Audition Spotlight, to networking and training, to getting a call to do a one-off for the Today show, which turned into several more, which turned into where he is today…at Today!

As Marc said, “You have to stay positive and can’t give up. There’s a uniqueness to you, and that’s yours to own.”

And speaking of uniqueness, we heard some of Marc’s stories about the late, great Gilbert Gottfried. Like the time Gilbert was invited to the Advertising Hall of Fame Parade and rode in a convertible with a huge stuffed Aflac duck, until his driver took a wrong turn and got lost halfway through the parade. Marc also said that any time Gilbert was on the Howard Stern show, just being his wildly inappropriate self, Marc’s eyes would be glued to his phone just waiting for Aflac to call him, upset about something Gilbert said. “He really stayed true to himself,” Marc said.

Huge thanks to Marc for taking time to talk about his book on Clubhouse tonight, and huge thanks also for writing it and sharing the perspectives, advice, and encouragement in its pages! Check out the Marc Guss Voiceover Club every Wednesday night on Clubhouse at 8:30 pm ET or catch the replay later.

Clubhouse Recap: Thesaurus Day at the “Working” Voice Actor

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Today, it was time to break out the thesaurus during The “Working” Voice Actor on Clubhouse. Our hosts, George Nowik, Roshelle Simpson, and Megan Selke, asked us to help out our fellow voice actors by providing adjectives that can be used on our websites, social posts, marketing materials, etc., that describe our voices.

Each person on stage was asked a question by one of the lovely mods, something easy and personal to spark that natural conversational tone, and then had one minute to give an answer. Questions like “What is your favorite season and why?” or “Tell me about your wedding day,” or “What was an embarrassing story that happened in college that you can laugh about now?”

Everyone listening used the chat to describe that person’s voice and voila: each speaker had some quick, crowdsourced descriptors to use in promoting themselves and their VO business. Plus, it was a lot of fun to hear people’s responses and to get to know everyone better!

Thank you George, Roshelle, and Megan for organizing this relaxed and useful exercise! The room is always a blast, and it happens every Friday on Clubhouse at 9am PST/noon EST. Always a fun way to wrap up the week!

SOVAS Recap: Nancy Cartwright on the State of VO

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The #StateofVO was back with a bang tonight with fabulous guest and Simpsons superstar Nancy Cartwright!! She’s not only voiced the world’s favorite 4th grader and so many other memorable characters, but Nancy is also a Masterclass instructor and author/narrator of her book “I’m Still a 10-Year-Old Boy.”

Nancy and Joan started the discussion talking about art and inspiration. “Life is an art, and you have to treat it that way,” Nancy said, and that being prepared and taking care of yourself is essential. “You gotta spin a lot of plates in life in order to stay ahead of the game,” she added.

In talking about happiness, Nancy emphasized the importance of knowing and being comfortable with yourself. She said that you shouldn’t depend on others to make you happy, you have to create that for yourself. You have to look inward and take responsibility for your happiness and your life.

And sometimes, as hard as it can be, that could mean ending those relationships that don’t fulfill you. Nancy gave an example: when you’re done hanging out with someone, do you feel uplifted or bummed? If you’re feeling down, that could be telling you something about that relationship.

“Think of it as spring cleaning: clean out your closet of people who are not supporting you in your life,” Nancy said, and that you should “help yourself by recognizing who is helping you or not helping you.”

And forget about the haters — some people just want to tear others down.

I loved it when Nancy told us that we should share our art with people. “Artists are the most valuable people on the planet. We elevate the culture,” she said. And Joan added, “Getting your self expression out there, what else is there?”

We were treated to a demonstration of Nancy’s talents when she performed Bart Simpson’s voice at age 10, then at age 2, age 5, age 10 again, and what he would sound like at 13 with a voice that’s starting to crack. All unmistakably Bart, yet all definitely reflecting those different age ranges. “I don’t know how I do this,” she said, adding that she’s not thinking about a technical aspect, like using her head voice or throat voice.

Marc Guss asked Nancy some audience questions and her answers to each of them were so interesting and valuable. When asked about a challenging job, she talked about how she handled stepping into the role of Chuckie on Rugrats with grace and respect for her fellow voice actors.

She shared her Six Salient Steps to Successful Survival, which include doing what you love and sharing your genius with others. And when asked about a time when performing Bart for fan had an affect on her, she told told an absolutely touching and memorable story of how she visited a boy whose Make-A-Wish request was to meet Bart Simpson and spent time with him and his family.

Huge thanks to Nancy Cartwright for her time and expertise that she shared with us in the audience, and as always, thanks to the Society of Voice Arts and Sciences, Joan Baker, Marc Guss, Rudy Gaskins & the team for putting together another amazing event!

What a way to start the new season of SOVAS Q&A events! Don’t miss a thing, check out the State of VO page on the SOVAS website.

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Clubhouse Recap: Charlie Toro on the Marc Guss Voiceover Club

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Huge thanks to Marc Guss and his guest tonight on the Marc Guss Voiceover Club, Charlie Toro! Charlie is known for his epic voice overs and basically for epicness in everything he does, and tonight he shared his journey with Marc and the Clubhouse audience.

Charlie started out as a musician, and for a time, was doing voiceover without realizing it when club owners would ask him to read scripts during sound checks that he would hear later on (not knowing that he was being recorded!) After getting paid for reading a commercial for a friend’s invention, he decided to pursue VO, which for him included lots of research, research, research.

He watched commercials and studied, “iSpot.tv was my coach for a long time,” he said. He also found resources online from people like Bill DeWees, and he practiced a lot on his own before working with coaches.

Last fall, Charlie was the winner of the 2021 CBS Audition Spotlight at the That’s Voiceover Career Expo, and I remember the excitement of watching him and the other 5 finalists perform live during the final auditions. Charlie’s win took his career to new heights, and his recent success with NASCAR was celebrated tonight. Here are some highlights of the conversation with Marc and the audience and some tips from Charlie:

  • On his routine before getting behind the mic: “I do a lot of yelling,” he said, adding that he gets his whole body moving, goes outside and walks, stands in the sun and absorbs some sunlight and energy then brings all of that back into the booth.
  • When he gets into the booth he is confident, he thinks “pure badass,” and he imagines the mic as an extension of himself.
  • Did coming from music help him in VO? Charlie said that knowing keys, notes, and tone were all helpful, especially tone. When recording, if he hears the music he can get right into the tone of a spot.
  • He practices reading commercials, records them and adds music, and then when he gets a similar audition, he pulls out those recordings for reference.
  • His brand is “epic” and every day he thinks about creating new ways to bring that to his social media and marketing. “I wanted to separate myself from the pack a little bit and bring my brand out there.”
  • And regarding social media posts: don’t expect to get any work from putting your stuff online. Charlie says that his plan is to try to stay relevant. “Just post stuff of you being you,” he says. Also, he doesn’t rely on email to reach out when marketing — he prefers to call because they hear your voice instantly.

During a discussion on finding work, the topic of certain online casting websites came up, and it was great to hear Marc shut down the idea anyone having “ruffled feathers” or feeling shame in looking for work on online casting platforms. “Everybody has every right to go about their business their own way,” he said. Bravo, Marc!

Thanks so much to Marc and Charlie for the amazing conversation, and for the insightful audience questions that furthered the discussion! Check out the Marc Guss Voiceover Club every Wednesday night on Clubhouse at 8:30 pm ET or catch the replay later.